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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2007, 09:04:39 PM »

Your welcome screen must be disabled then, because otherwise administrator is only an option for logging on if you do so in safemode. Otherwise, it stays hidden. Thats the disconnect that KGIII seems to be missing is that the happy little user-friendly XP settings for user profiles will override the less happy/user-friendly settings for user profiles... just won't seem to get it through his silly little skull...
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2007, 09:08:43 PM »

Most people have more than one account - more so XP Home users. There are other accounts in there for a reason - so that programs can safely "run as" those accounts. Disabling those accounts is like removing your airbags so that your vehicle weighs less and you can go faster.

Please do not give bad advice up to and including just changing the username via the control panel. (Which does nothing other than a cosmetic change.) If you personally can't follow the directions that doesn't the directions erronious it just means you should follow them more closely or simply ask for help.

Caveat: Changing the username on a profile has lead to all sorts of wonderful errors but likely will have no major ill effects in a home user's environment. Unfortunately it doesn't do anything other than cosmetic changes. The path on the system will still be under the old username. About the only effect a home user will see is when they need to go into their documents and settings (not "My Documents") and discover that they don't actually have an account by that name. (The system path is still C:\Documents and Settings\OLD USERNAME\ as it just renames a few system folders and the welcome screen as well as the info in a few other areas.)
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2007, 09:11:17 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2007, 09:13:46 PM »

Your welcome screen must be disabled then, because otherwise administrator is only an option for logging on if you do so in safemode. Otherwise, it stays hidden. Thats the disconnect that KGIII seems to be missing is that the happy little user-friendly XP settings for user profiles will override the less happy/user-friendly settings for user profiles... just won't seem to get it through his silly little skull...

Again, enough with the erronious advice... One of the more common "tweaks" people make would be:

http://kgiii.info...n_on_welcome.html
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2007, 09:15:40 PM »

And yes... KGIII is right about it being only a cosmetic change, although I'm not too concerned about that. I just got tired of clicking "cancel" everytime I logged on. It was more of an irritation than anything.
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2007, 09:28:14 PM »

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I'd like to change the profile to reflect my name
I'm sorry if you consider telling her how to do this using the tools that Microsoft has built into their software for this very purpose bad advice.

Also, if you took a minute to look at it you would see that the method I posted for automatically logging in does not disable the administrator account (not possible through the control panel in any way that I have found), so there is still another option for logging in if something goes wrong. It just eliminates other user created accounts like one might have if multiple people used the computer with their own user accounts, which doesnt seem to be the case here considering the desired outcome was automatically logging in.
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2007, 09:35:58 PM »

Oh there are "built in" tools to do this. Create a new account and migrate the old account's settings over. In a home environment that won't matter a great deal other than cosmetics and eventually "Hey, I don't have a profile?"

The other accounts, like ASPNET, SQLDebugger, etc are all there for security reasons. Disabling those disables the security that was gained by having them - meaning applications could "run as" and use the user rights that those profiles have.
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2007, 09:47:27 PM »

Those dont have to be disabled to automatically logon using the steps I wrote out for her. The ONLY ones that need to be disabled are the Guest account and any ones that were manually created by the user (like they decided Bob needed a think to click that said Bob so he would feel special, so they gave him one, and Little Suzy felt left out, so she got her own too...) And since the computer will be logging on automatically, those become superfluous anyway since you aren't going to be choosing what account you want to log in under.

Edit to clarify: Any accounts manually created by the user except the one that they want to automatically log into...
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2007, 10:13:38 PM »

Those dont have to be disabled to automatically logon using the steps I wrote out for her. The ONLY ones that need to be disabled are the Guest account and any ones that were manually created by the user (like they decided Bob needed a think to click that said Bob so he would feel special, so they gave him one, and Little Suzy felt left out, so she got her own too...) And since the computer will be logging on automatically, those become superfluous anyway since you aren't going to be choosing what account you want to log in under.

That's all well and good but, well, what if Bob and Suzy want to keep their accounts? (Even with automatic login enabled there is still the logoff feature and - I don't recall if it works - fast user switching?)

Better still (and no, no one is going to listen to this - but don't blame that on me) what if RWS wanted to do things the "proper" way and use the computer as a simple user instead of as an administrator? But, then again, it seems we (myself included) always use our PCs with administrative rights and then many of use (myself excluded unless I work really hard at it) end up contracting malware or just a variety of errors that simply shouldn't/wouldn't happen with a "least required user rights" setup.

(NEVER have just a single administrator user on your account by the way. Do you keep only a single set of keys for a car or a house? ALWAYS have a spare.)

Again, you can do all sorts of things in a variety of ways. You can partition your drive via command line if you wanted or make something look entirely like it is working while in reality it isn't. Then again, if you want, you can do it the right way - the way that ensures that it works (except in your case it seems) - and doesn't cause any additional harm to your system.

One additional point - though the title of the page is not applicable here - is, if you want to change your account (and have it all work nice and properly) and you want to retain the information (such as bookmarks, files, documents, favorites, etc) from the old account:

http://kgiii.info...rupt_profile.html

One benefit of this is that applications installed will, hopefully, then pick up your username instead of "OEMDellXPHome" or something silly and improperly coded applications will still install properly as well as temp files getting cleaned properly as has sometimes been an issue though not so common. Not so important to most of us would be that authenticating on some networks then becomes problematic.

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