My Mess...

[KGIII]

News block re-added. Thoughts?

[femlow]

It makes for quite a few things at the top, but the changing is fancy... can the smaller news section that is right above it (which seems kind of redundant in such close proximity) be made to change?

[runswithscissors]

News block re-added. Thoughts?

I like the news block menu over to the right. Makes me less confused.

I agree with fem about the redundancy. Could a new "news" message load every time a page is refreshed or something like that?

[runswithscissors]

I meant in the news block.

[KGIII]

It makes for quite a few things at the top, but the changing is fancy... can the smaller news section that is right above it (which seems kind of redundant in such close proximity) be made to change?

Probably could be. In fact quite easily could be I suppose. I won't thought. It doesn't always display the same information and is on all the pages as opposed to the news fader that is only on the index. Seemingly redundant but remarkably different. They're exactly the same but entirely different.

The insane code used by SMF (I'm still curious about a lot the choices they made) forced me to actually insert a blank table with a boarder set by px value. The reason I ended up doing so is not because of IE covering up the ads, you should have seen what the profiles looked like...

They aligned, the profiles, with the top block on the left so they were really skinny and tucked up next to the added link array. As in the entire profile summary information was a long skinny looking critter that was actually on the left hand side of the new links and aligned with the bottom of the new block that I added.

This is why tables should be illegal and pages formatted using CSS... But no no no...

Anyhow, I'm starting to reach rational limits as to what I can and can't accomplish with SMF easily without moving the forum to a server on its own or at least moving the database to a less used server. (The latency issues won't add up to a great deal so it's do-able...) Each page call is now polling 30+ times (35 for this particular thread) and the server can rationally handle all of our traffic, posts, and use. But then you have a half dozen spiders crawling the site at warp speed. Something like 1.8 GB worth of traffic already this month and the CPU spikes up to about a 1.5 on all four CPUs when there are more than 10 people on this site.

So, well, we might be going for a little ride. You won't notice anything other than it going faster and a three minute window where the site tells you to come back later. I might do that as a preventive measure this weekend. Because things can and might go wrong I'll need to ensure that I have a full 72 hour block to dedicate to it. If I don't get it done before the new year then, well, I won't have time until June probably.

The worst part is, well, of all the features and modification it really doesn't look like a great deal and probably won't get used by that many people until we grow more. Ah well...

Meanwhile... Back at the ranch...

It is up there, working, and seems to render fine now though I can't see AdSense ads from Google with IE at all actually but they /should/ be positioned properly.

[KGIII]

I like the news block menu over to the right. Makes me less confused.

I agree with fem about the redundancy. Could a new "news" message load every time a page is refreshed or something like that?

It does. There are just four and it is at random so repeated content is inevitable.

[KGIII]

Neat... I like PHP some days. Other days I really hate it. Anyhow if you log out (or have no posts) hidden stuff appears at the bottom. (Now I'm getting edumacated on turning it into a proper array to avoid the use of global variables.)

[KGIII]

Learn and code the mod:

http://oserrato.c...tosbearmoods.html

There you go. You want it, you code it.

[femlow]

sounds like someones bitter

[KGIII]

Nah, just too busy to code something quite so trivial and, besides, there's room enough for everyone to code. Gotta teach you all something eventually.

[femlow]

Pfft! We don't need no brains... that's what we gots KGIIIs for.

[KGIII]

He's busy. See post in just a moment.

[runswithscissors]

Nah, just too busy to code something quite so trivial and, besides, there's room enough for everyone to code. Gotta teach you all something eventually.

*looks around*

Are you including ME in this?

I went to the site, drooled a little, realized I'd have to right click or something to get the code, then decided to eat veggie chips instead.

I'll let fem do it.

[femlow]

oh no... I've clicked his links before. I know better now.

[runswithscissors]

LOL!

[KGIII]

'Snot that hard... Sheesh. Gotta get you folks to do something educational and constructive.

Depending on the results from the blog? Multiple forum hosting might be the next thing. Point, click, insert a few bits of information, and you have a forum ready for you.

[femlow]

If we wanted to be educational and constructive, we would probably not spend so much time at this forum...

[KGIII]

LOL The goal of the forum is to be both. Didn't you read the charter? Sheesh... *points to the brand new block at the top and the about page at the main site*

Being constructive and learning is the goal. To learn, to grow, and to share those benefits with others.

Surely this is constructive. Well, okay, not always. But it should be. I learn lots of stuff, entire new ways of doing things even. Sharing that fun with you is really the goal. It doesn't get much better than spending a "few minutes" seeing if you can take a script someone else wrote and make it do what you want and then finally looking at the clock to see that 6 hours have passed.

It's wonderful to be able to enjoy something that much. However, I don't have time to code the mod. If you took a look at the existing MOD you'd figure it out pretty quickly.

[Element]

the google ads cover up the menu now if the window isn't big enough

IE Only from the looks of it. I'll try sliding them down with an edit to the code for the ads.

Hm, IE causing html rendering issues? Is this new?

Sorry, I had to say it.

[KGIII]

Hm, IE causing html rendering issues? Is this new?

Sorry, I had to say it.

LOL That's not a bug! It's a feature!

Two things I abhor with IE but understand.

1) IE will open a file based on contents and not on the extension in the default configuration. If that's not the most freakin' retarded excuse for slack coding that opens up a giant security hole the size of Britt... Never mind that. But it's a huge hole regardless.

2) IE wants to have sites render more easily and so it is more forgiving. Sure, coding for IE is generally easier for the "average" site but once you start trying to positioning things using set values that are standards and work just famously in Opera the proverbial fecal matter hits the anecdotal fan. If you then switch your layout to CSS and try to get it to render properly in Firefox and IE you might as well string up if it's at all complicated. Both browsers are awful...

Those two things really irk me.

I do have a semi-zany idea though, just not one that I'll hopefully act on. SMF needs a theme that doesn't rely on templates. And, as we can see, my design skills are only slightly better than my knitting skills. Considering that I can't knit? It isn't pretty. So... If anyone's feeling REALLY constructive...

*will have the new section done here tonight from the looks of things* Bugs and the likes can go in there - another post to follow this one sometime I suspect.

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